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	<title>Comments on: Q &#038; A: Can a Relaxed Student Get into Grad School?</title>
	<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/</link>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-6330</link>
		<author>Tiffany</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-6330</guid>
		<description>Thanks for this post. I feel enlightened to a lot of what I should be doing in my undergraduate years. Compared to my friends, who probably won't differentiate between how grad school admissions work compared to undergrad admissions, they'll just over-work themselves

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post. I feel enlightened to a lot of what I should be doing in my undergraduate years. Compared to my friends, who probably won&#8217;t differentiate between how grad school admissions work compared to undergrad admissions, they&#8217;ll just over-work themselves</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Study Hacks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Zen Valedictorian: A Radical New Model for Getting the Most Out of College</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5547</link>
		<author>Study Hacks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Zen Valedictorian: A Radical New Model for Getting the Most Out of College</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5547</guid>
		<description>[...] Can a Relaxed Student Get Into Grad School? Highlighting how the reality of many competitive pursuits &#8212; like getting into a good grad program &#8212; rewards simplicity and focus over grinding and overload. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Can a Relaxed Student Get Into Grad School? Highlighting how the reality of many competitive pursuits &#8212; like getting into a good grad program &#8212; rewards simplicity and focus over grinding and overload. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Study Hacks</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5372</link>
		<author>Study Hacks</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5372</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The thing is, my school seems to have so many projects! We have to do like, one for every single subject and they’re all pretty major ones, including research –surveys, analysis, reports, and all that, so if I want to do well in them I really have to put loads of effort in.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First things first, you have to get a handle on your academics. Your school assigns a lot of work. Okay, kick ass with your work. How do you do this? Make sure you abandon the typical high school mindset that it's just a function of how many hours of effort you invest. Read the study tips and productivity archives of this blog. Man up (or woman up) and take control of your time. Start making schedules. Start things earlier. Replace inefficient study habits with efficient ones. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once you have a handle on your courses, and you really feel like you're engaging that material, and enjoy it, and are doing top-notch work, then remember the following: &lt;strong&gt;interesting things happen to interesting people. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This translates, for you, to take something you're interested in, like writing or photography, and start asking what would be the coolest f'ing things I could do with this? Then talk to people who have. Try random stuff. Go out on a limb. Just be interesting and constantly seek cool new places to take your interests. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good stuff -- including, yes, success with college admissions -- will follow.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The thing is, my school seems to have so many projects! We have to do like, one for every single subject and they’re all pretty major ones, including research –surveys, analysis, reports, and all that, so if I want to do well in them I really have to put loads of effort in.</p>
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<p>First things first, you have to get a handle on your academics. Your school assigns a lot of work. Okay, kick ass with your work. How do you do this? Make sure you abandon the typical high school mindset that it&#8217;s just a function of how many hours of effort you invest. Read the study tips and productivity archives of this blog. Man up (or woman up) and take control of your time. Start making schedules. Start things earlier. Replace inefficient study habits with efficient ones. </p>
<p>Once you have a handle on your courses, and you really feel like you&#8217;re engaging that material, and enjoy it, and are doing top-notch work, then remember the following: <strong>interesting things happen to interesting people. </strong></p>
<p>This translates, for you, to take something you&#8217;re interested in, like writing or photography, and start asking what would be the coolest f&#8217;ing things I could do with this? Then talk to people who have. Try random stuff. Go out on a limb. Just be interesting and constantly seek cool new places to take your interests. </p>
<p>Good stuff &#8212; including, yes, success with college admissions &#8212; will follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Study Hacks</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5371</link>
		<author>Study Hacks</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5371</guid>
		<description>@Linh:

If you click on the "About Study Hacks" tab above it has all my contact info. But now that you've asked, I'm happy to answer your question here. 

The basic idea behind Tip #60 is that you should do some good just for the sake of doing good. Not for recognition. Now, if you've done a lot of volunteering then, of course, you can mention this in a relevant interview, as it's a major part of your background. But for many students, who don't really do anything along those lines, Tip #60 would say "go do something, just to be good, not for any other reason."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Linh:</p>
<p>If you click on the &#8220;About Study Hacks&#8221; tab above it has all my contact info. But now that you&#8217;ve asked, I&#8217;m happy to answer your question here. </p>
<p>The basic idea behind Tip #60 is that you should do some good just for the sake of doing good. Not for recognition. Now, if you&#8217;ve done a lot of volunteering then, of course, you can mention this in a relevant interview, as it&#8217;s a major part of your background. But for many students, who don&#8217;t really do anything along those lines, Tip #60 would say &#8220;go do something, just to be good, not for any other reason.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Linh</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5370</link>
		<author>Linh</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5370</guid>
		<description>Dear Cal,

I'm sorry this isn't related to your entry. I just couldn't find your contact info even after some digging (maybe I'm less tech-savvy than I thought). I just have a question about a tip in your How to Win in College. Tip #60 says I should volunteer but not talk about it, not even in interviews. I'm not a fan of showoffs either, but aren't there points in an interview when a big volunteer experience would earn you lots of points? For example, I'm applying for summer internships in non-profit organizations, and I can't think of a way to convince them I'm fit for the job without bringing up how much volunteering I've done and how it has shaped my thinking, etc. Some more elaboration on this would be great.

Before I wind up, let me reiterate the obvious: your book is amazing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Cal,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry this isn&#8217;t related to your entry. I just couldn&#8217;t find your contact info even after some digging (maybe I&#8217;m less tech-savvy than I thought). I just have a question about a tip in your How to Win in College. Tip #60 says I should volunteer but not talk about it, not even in interviews. I&#8217;m not a fan of showoffs either, but aren&#8217;t there points in an interview when a big volunteer experience would earn you lots of points? For example, I&#8217;m applying for summer internships in non-profit organizations, and I can&#8217;t think of a way to convince them I&#8217;m fit for the job without bringing up how much volunteering I&#8217;ve done and how it has shaped my thinking, etc. Some more elaboration on this would be great.</p>
<p>Before I wind up, let me reiterate the obvious: your book is amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: ;)</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5368</link>
		<author>;)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5368</guid>
		<description>Thanks Cal for your reply... The thing is, my school seems to have so many projects! We have to do like, one for every single subject and they're all pretty major ones, including research --surveys, analysis, reports, and all that, so if I want to do well in them I really have to put loads of effort in. Something which I can't seem to escape.... I'm 16. And shit, my extracurriculars are like, zilch. Unless you count my writing/photography, which I seriously have not achieved much in. So how's the radical simplicity manifesto going to help me? Are you going to have a new book coming out soon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Cal for your reply&#8230; The thing is, my school seems to have so many projects! We have to do like, one for every single subject and they&#8217;re all pretty major ones, including research &#8211;surveys, analysis, reports, and all that, so if I want to do well in them I really have to put loads of effort in. Something which I can&#8217;t seem to escape&#8230;. I&#8217;m 16. And shit, my extracurriculars are like, zilch. Unless you count my writing/photography, which I seriously have not achieved much in. So how&#8217;s the radical simplicity manifesto going to help me? Are you going to have a new book coming out soon?</p>
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		<title>By: Study Hacks</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5366</link>
		<author>Study Hacks</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5366</guid>
		<description>@Gradhacker:

Thanks for chiming in. It's great to hear other voices that have gone through this. It's so true about the snobbery. I went to Dartmouth. That's a pretty good school. But it's not known as a science power-house. I've actually had (typically, non-American) researchers say to me: "what's Dartmouth?" Not even on their radar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gradhacker:</p>
<p>Thanks for chiming in. It&#8217;s great to hear other voices that have gone through this. It&#8217;s so true about the snobbery. I went to Dartmouth. That&#8217;s a pretty good school. But it&#8217;s not known as a science power-house. I&#8217;ve actually had (typically, non-American) researchers say to me: &#8220;what&#8217;s Dartmouth?&#8221; Not even on their radar.</p>
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		<title>By: Study Hacks</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5365</link>
		<author>Study Hacks</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5365</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Can a relaxed high school student get into Harvard (or the Ivy League/top schools)?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Don't get me started! I've been researching this question since the summer. Short answer: yes. 

Slightly longer answer: high school students who apply the radical simplicity manifesto, and really focus hard on at most one thing, and leave open time for random opportunities, end up begin really interesting. There's nothing these top schools like more than truely interesting people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Can a relaxed high school student get into Harvard (or the Ivy League/top schools)?</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me started! I&#8217;ve been researching this question since the summer. Short answer: yes. </p>
<p>Slightly longer answer: high school students who apply the radical simplicity manifesto, and really focus hard on at most one thing, and leave open time for random opportunities, end up begin really interesting. There&#8217;s nothing these top schools like more than truely interesting people.</p>
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		<title>By: Study Hacks</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5364</link>
		<author>Study Hacks</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5364</guid>
		<description>@jonny:

Earlier this week I got an e-mail from a reader who has some connection to the admission decisions at a prestigious medical program. His observation: "I was suprised by how many of the [accepted] students reeked of radical simplicity." I'm now working with him on a more detailed post about med school, but one of the basic observations is that, yes, you should expose yourself to the medical world. But this can be your main activity, or done over the summer, or done in a year between graduation and starting med school. There's no reason why this necessitates an over-crowded schedule. 

More soon...stay tuned...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jonny:</p>
<p>Earlier this week I got an e-mail from a reader who has some connection to the admission decisions at a prestigious medical program. His observation: &#8220;I was suprised by how many of the [accepted] students reeked of radical simplicity.&#8221; I&#8217;m now working with him on a more detailed post about med school, but one of the basic observations is that, yes, you should expose yourself to the medical world. But this can be your main activity, or done over the summer, or done in a year between graduation and starting med school. There&#8217;s no reason why this necessitates an over-crowded schedule. </p>
<p>More soon&#8230;stay tuned&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gradhacker</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5363</link>
		<author>Gradhacker</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/04/04/q-a-can-a-relaxed-student-get-into-grad-school/#comment-5363</guid>
		<description>I'm in grad school in the sciences and I would definitely say that to get into top grad schools in the sciences you can &lt;strong&gt;strictly &lt;/strong&gt; focus on 1)research, join a group where there is a non-zero chance of having your name on a publication  2) grades, focusing first on your major's grades and second on all others. 3) letters of rec from science teachers, which should be mostly taken care of from your research adviser(s). Yearbook, student body, music, etc. is &lt;strong&gt;100% unnecessary &lt;/strong&gt;if those 3 things are taken care of. 

Also,I went to a liberal arts college and am in grad school in engineering and learned that for those of us coming from small non-research schools, you've got to try to get a summer internship at a large name-recognized school. Unfortunately for us, name recognition matters to profs at big name schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in grad school in the sciences and I would definitely say that to get into top grad schools in the sciences you can <strong>strictly </strong> focus on 1)research, join a group where there is a non-zero chance of having your name on a publication  2) grades, focusing first on your major&#8217;s grades and second on all others. 3) letters of rec from science teachers, which should be mostly taken care of from your research adviser(s). Yearbook, student body, music, etc. is <strong>100% unnecessary </strong>if those 3 things are taken care of. </p>
<p>Also,I went to a liberal arts college and am in grad school in engineering and learned that for those of us coming from small non-research schools, you&#8217;ve got to try to get a summer internship at a large name-recognized school. Unfortunately for us, name recognition matters to profs at big name schools.</p>
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