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		<title>By: &#187; The Rift Created by The Four Hour Workweek Youngdough.com: a college kid&#8217;s journey to financial freedom&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6705</link>
		<author>&#187; The Rift Created by The Four Hour Workweek Youngdough.com: a college kid&#8217;s journey to financial freedom&#8230;</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Newport recently wrote an article defending the opposing side from the bombarding attacks of the hard-core lifestyle designers, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Newport recently wrote an article defending the opposing side from the bombarding attacks of the hard-core lifestyle designers, and [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Study Hacks</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6429</link>
		<author>Study Hacks</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6429</guid>
		<description>I just returned from a nice relaxing weekend in Maine, so I didn't really get a chance to respond to these comments individually as they came in. I want to say, broadly, that this all excellent feedback. I'm glad to see that others also feel an unease about the "new religion" style of many in the online self development community. Brandon's story is exactly the type of thing I'm terrified about, and Keith's note adds an important nuance to the value of the short-term traditional path. 

Great stuff guys...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just returned from a nice relaxing weekend in Maine, so I didn&#8217;t really get a chance to respond to these comments individually as they came in. I want to say, broadly, that this all excellent feedback. I&#8217;m glad to see that others also feel an unease about the &#8220;new religion&#8221; style of many in the online self development community. Brandon&#8217;s story is exactly the type of thing I&#8217;m terrified about, and Keith&#8217;s note adds an important nuance to the value of the short-term traditional path. </p>
<p>Great stuff guys&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Traditional Career Paths</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6427</link>
		<author>Traditional Career Paths</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Career Paths   Study Hacks ? Blog Archive ? Dangerous Ideas: Beware of People Who Tell You Traditional Career Paths...  Just an article to offer a different perspective.  __________________ Blog of the Perpetual Seeker [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Career Paths   Study Hacks ? Blog Archive ? Dangerous Ideas: Beware of People Who Tell You Traditional Career Paths&#8230;  Just an article to offer a different perspective.  __________________ Blog of the Perpetual Seeker [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6424</link>
		<author>Jack</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6424</guid>
		<description>I couldn't agree more. I've been reading "Self Development" blogs for a long time now , and although I find many of their posts very interesting and helpful , I can't avoid the feeling that they instead of liberating people from fixed concept , they just preach a new religion - not necessarily better then the old one.

We are all human beings , and as such , we've already learned that "one size does not fit all" , specially when it comes to life style. So it's great to learn about new options and think about possibilities you might not have considered - but you should always keep in mind that what's right for them is not necessarily right for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. I&#8217;ve been reading &#8220;Self Development&#8221; blogs for a long time now , and although I find many of their posts very interesting and helpful , I can&#8217;t avoid the feeling that they instead of liberating people from fixed concept , they just preach a new religion - not necessarily better then the old one.</p>
<p>We are all human beings , and as such , we&#8217;ve already learned that &#8220;one size does not fit all&#8221; , specially when it comes to life style. So it&#8217;s great to learn about new options and think about possibilities you might not have considered - but you should always keep in mind that what&#8217;s right for them is not necessarily right for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Yeh</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6421</link>
		<author>Chris Yeh</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6421</guid>
		<description>There is a nasty whiff of the scam or pyramid scheme to the work of this new wave of self-help bloggers.

You wrote, "Do you really believe that everyone would be best off be making their living off of blog advertisements, eBook sales, and paid product reviews?"

I think an even more salient question is, do you really believe that everyone, or even a reasonable number of people, could make a living that way?

Something most people tend to forget is that the value of advertising is in its ability to get people to buy things.  Simply racking up pageviews is not enough.

If everyone quit their jobs and started hawking health pills and eBooks, who the hell would actually buy them?  Where would the money to feed the system come from?

The guru life works for Pavlina and Ferriss because their approach is *rare* and they can make money off a legion of followers.  But when everyone tries to be a guru, there's no way even a small fraction will succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a nasty whiff of the scam or pyramid scheme to the work of this new wave of self-help bloggers.</p>
<p>You wrote, &#8220;Do you really believe that everyone would be best off be making their living off of blog advertisements, eBook sales, and paid product reviews?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think an even more salient question is, do you really believe that everyone, or even a reasonable number of people, could make a living that way?</p>
<p>Something most people tend to forget is that the value of advertising is in its ability to get people to buy things.  Simply racking up pageviews is not enough.</p>
<p>If everyone quit their jobs and started hawking health pills and eBooks, who the hell would actually buy them?  Where would the money to feed the system come from?</p>
<p>The guru life works for Pavlina and Ferriss because their approach is *rare* and they can make money off a legion of followers.  But when everyone tries to be a guru, there&#8217;s no way even a small fraction will succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Meagher</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6420</link>
		<author>Evan Meagher</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 05:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6420</guid>
		<description>Good post. I liked Pavlina's article, but felt it was a bit over the top. It's nice to have both his and your posts to correspond and play off eachother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. I liked Pavlina&#8217;s article, but felt it was a bit over the top. It&#8217;s nice to have both his and your posts to correspond and play off eachother.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6419</link>
		<author>Brandon</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6419</guid>
		<description>I totally agree. Neither extreme is good.

The thing that worries me about his site is not necessarily that he gives his advice, as is his right, but that some younger people see this and think they don't have to go to college, because they are special, and they will have just as great of a chance of succeeding as a college graduate. That's just pure ignorance. Unfortunately I see it among some who follow Steve's writing.

I tried to convince one person who had been thinking this way, explaining that at worst, going to college would be a safety net, in case his plans didn't work out. He said I just didn't understand. :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree. Neither extreme is good.</p>
<p>The thing that worries me about his site is not necessarily that he gives his advice, as is his right, but that some younger people see this and think they don&#8217;t have to go to college, because they are special, and they will have just as great of a chance of succeeding as a college graduate. That&#8217;s just pure ignorance. Unfortunately I see it among some who follow Steve&#8217;s writing.</p>
<p>I tried to convince one person who had been thinking this way, explaining that at worst, going to college would be a safety net, in case his plans didn&#8217;t work out. He said I just didn&#8217;t understand. <img src='http://calnewport.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6416</link>
		<author>Jordan</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"has been gaining ground in the self-development blogging community." 

The mindset of working for yourself has been around forever and is held by a small percentage of people. The self-development blogging community is a very small percentage of people and what portion of that community are anti-job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;has been gaining ground in the self-development blogging community.&#8221; </p>
<p>The mindset of working for yourself has been around forever and is held by a small percentage of people. The self-development blogging community is a very small percentage of people and what portion of that community are anti-job.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6415</link>
		<author>Keith</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6415</guid>
		<description>A traditional career path is something I'd suggest for most people leaving school.  You don't need to stay in that career for ever, but a few years can really help.  Here are some of the advantages I see:

1. There's security in working for big companies that make money and aren't likely to fail.  This gives you room to make mistakes and learn from them in a safer environment that you will find when working on your own.  This security is especially important for people with kids.

2. Working with different people is also a very important skill that can be learned.  Virtually all students have almost no experience working with people who are older or have different skill levels.  Learning how to deal with these types of people can be a big benefit when striking out on your own later.

3. Learning about an industry from the inside can be very important for later in life.  You get to meet many people and see many jobs that are often opaque to someone outside the company or industry.  Knowing how things work and who makes them work can be a big advantage later in life.

The anti-career advice of "you are a cog in a machine" is totally true, but sometimes being a cog isn't bad.  This is especially true for people who's job isn't their primary focus in life.  For parents with kids, or people with medical conditions, or people who are active outside work, a traditional career, chosen well, can be a way to have security for themselves and their family while dealing with other issues.  

One final point here is that the "traditional career" is pretty much dead.  The security blanket from a big company isn't nearly as big as it was back in the 1950s.  Even a "careerist" needs to really look at themselves as a free-agent to some degree, because it's unlikely that their job will remain stable and secure throughout their lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A traditional career path is something I&#8217;d suggest for most people leaving school.  You don&#8217;t need to stay in that career for ever, but a few years can really help.  Here are some of the advantages I see:</p>
<p>1. There&#8217;s security in working for big companies that make money and aren&#8217;t likely to fail.  This gives you room to make mistakes and learn from them in a safer environment that you will find when working on your own.  This security is especially important for people with kids.</p>
<p>2. Working with different people is also a very important skill that can be learned.  Virtually all students have almost no experience working with people who are older or have different skill levels.  Learning how to deal with these types of people can be a big benefit when striking out on your own later.</p>
<p>3. Learning about an industry from the inside can be very important for later in life.  You get to meet many people and see many jobs that are often opaque to someone outside the company or industry.  Knowing how things work and who makes them work can be a big advantage later in life.</p>
<p>The anti-career advice of &#8220;you are a cog in a machine&#8221; is totally true, but sometimes being a cog isn&#8217;t bad.  This is especially true for people who&#8217;s job isn&#8217;t their primary focus in life.  For parents with kids, or people with medical conditions, or people who are active outside work, a traditional career, chosen well, can be a way to have security for themselves and their family while dealing with other issues.  </p>
<p>One final point here is that the &#8220;traditional career&#8221; is pretty much dead.  The security blanket from a big company isn&#8217;t nearly as big as it was back in the 1950s.  Even a &#8220;careerist&#8221; needs to really look at themselves as a free-agent to some degree, because it&#8217;s unlikely that their job will remain stable and secure throughout their lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: Study Hacks</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6414</link>
		<author>Study Hacks</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/08/01/dangerous-ideas-beware-of-people-who-tell-you-traditional-career-paths-are-bad/#comment-6414</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Only in Silicon Valley could Tech Entrepreneur be considered a “traditional” career, or maybe in MIT)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ha! That is very true...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Only in Silicon Valley could Tech Entrepreneur be considered a “traditional” career, or maybe in MIT)</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha! That is very true&#8230;</p>
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