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		<title>By: Benedikt</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/12/17/q-a-how-much-does-intelligence-matter-at-college/#comment-24087</link>
		<dc:creator>Benedikt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ben: I share your position and I think Cal probably does so, too. Today I can phrase my understanding of the discussion here better than one or two years ago: I think that a difference has to be made between which assumptions are true and which are useful.

Cal&#039;s argument for our ability to improve ourselves is one that is concerned especially about a useful outcome. And of course: What good is it to mourn our shortcomings or to gloat because of our strengths? Nevertheless, and that&#039;s the thing I wanted to show (and your example comes in handy, too), we have certain strengths and other weaknesses.

That of course doesn&#039;t have to mean, that everything we think of as a weakness (or strength) has to be one - compare the &quot;curse&quot; of ADHD or similar examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ben: I share your position and I think Cal probably does so, too. Today I can phrase my understanding of the discussion here better than one or two years ago: I think that a difference has to be made between which assumptions are true and which are useful.</p>
<p>Cal&#8217;s argument for our ability to improve ourselves is one that is concerned especially about a useful outcome. And of course: What good is it to mourn our shortcomings or to gloat because of our strengths? Nevertheless, and that&#8217;s the thing I wanted to show (and your example comes in handy, too), we have certain strengths and other weaknesses.</p>
<p>That of course doesn&#8217;t have to mean, that everything we think of as a weakness (or strength) has to be one &#8211; compare the &#8220;curse&#8221; of ADHD or similar examples.</p>
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		<title>By: 13 Great Ways To Find Out What My Prospective Analytical Thesis Is &#124; William Rosenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>13 Great Ways To Find Out What My Prospective Analytical Thesis Is &#124; William Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 05:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/12/17/q-a-how-much-does-intelligence-matter-at-college/#comment-15952</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting (and apparently controversial post). Personally, I think both sides have merit. Certainly when it comes to world class proficiancy, practice is the crucial factor. Earlier there was a quote (several actually), about reading speed. You said the fast readers probably read more. Okay, I agree in some circumstances that&#039;s true, but aren&#039;t there people who simply read quickly? Personally, I&#039;m acquainted with a number of speed reading techniques (and I&#039;ll add memory techniques to that, since the situations are similar). These are techniques that most people don&#039;t use often. But there are SOME people that just use the techniques naturally. Couldn&#039;t this be considered an innate talent? Certainly the techniques can be learned, and those who practice them have a significant edge over even the naturals, but won&#039;t the natural have a significant advantage over the average person? I imagine there are similar situations in other fields. 


P.S. There was a comment about ADD/ADHD earlier, citing it as an incurable setback. Dominic O&#039;brien, 8 time world memory champ, was initially dyslexic and had ADHD, and claims that he is no longer afflicted by either. Worth looking into?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting (and apparently controversial post). Personally, I think both sides have merit. Certainly when it comes to world class proficiancy, practice is the crucial factor. Earlier there was a quote (several actually), about reading speed. You said the fast readers probably read more. Okay, I agree in some circumstances that&#8217;s true, but aren&#8217;t there people who simply read quickly? Personally, I&#8217;m acquainted with a number of speed reading techniques (and I&#8217;ll add memory techniques to that, since the situations are similar). These are techniques that most people don&#8217;t use often. But there are SOME people that just use the techniques naturally. Couldn&#8217;t this be considered an innate talent? Certainly the techniques can be learned, and those who practice them have a significant edge over even the naturals, but won&#8217;t the natural have a significant advantage over the average person? I imagine there are similar situations in other fields. </p>
<p>P.S. There was a comment about ADD/ADHD earlier, citing it as an incurable setback. Dominic O&#8217;brien, 8 time world memory champ, was initially dyslexic and had ADHD, and claims that he is no longer afflicted by either. Worth looking into?</p>
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		<title>By: Benedikt</title>
		<link>http://calnewport.com/blog/2008/12/17/q-a-how-much-does-intelligence-matter-at-college/#comment-11638</link>
		<dc:creator>Benedikt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s one year later and winter vacation again, so here is my overdue answer.

&lt;blockquote&gt;if people are born with some intrinsic talent, why can’t scientists routinely and commonly measure it and show it’s effect?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Probably because neither talent nor its effects can be isolated. As we both agree there isn&#039;t only the influencing factor talent, but there are also other very important factors. Because of the special ethics involved in this field of research, you can&#039;t conduct proper experiments, for example you can&#039;t take two newborn babies and manipulate the variables because the relevant decisions belong to the parents (and later, the child itself), not to researchers - we surely agree on that, too.

So the closest thing you actually &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; do that resembles an experiment (in German it&#039;s called a &quot;Quasi-Experiment&quot;) would be to look for two babies starting with the same genetic code but growing up under different cirumstances and watch, whether they develop similar. Exactly that has been done with twin studies. I can&#039;t imagine another effecive method to measure intrinsic talent - if you can, I&#039;m very curious.

I think that answers your question. Nevertheless: The things we &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; influence aren&#039;t the talents, with which we are born - for this reasons I share your conclusions regarding practical consequences. But regarding epimistological consequences (the &quot;truth&quot;) I&#039;d argue that your way of arguing resembles the well-known joke about the drunk who&#039;s looking for his keys under the lamppost - not because he&#039;s sure that he has lost them there, but because that&#039;s the only place where he can see anything at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s one year later and winter vacation again, so here is my overdue answer.</p>
<blockquote><p>if people are born with some intrinsic talent, why can’t scientists routinely and commonly measure it and show it’s effect?</p></blockquote>
<p>Probably because neither talent nor its effects can be isolated. As we both agree there isn&#8217;t only the influencing factor talent, but there are also other very important factors. Because of the special ethics involved in this field of research, you can&#8217;t conduct proper experiments, for example you can&#8217;t take two newborn babies and manipulate the variables because the relevant decisions belong to the parents (and later, the child itself), not to researchers &#8211; we surely agree on that, too.</p>
<p>So the closest thing you actually <em>can</em> do that resembles an experiment (in German it&#8217;s called a &#8220;Quasi-Experiment&#8221;) would be to look for two babies starting with the same genetic code but growing up under different cirumstances and watch, whether they develop similar. Exactly that has been done with twin studies. I can&#8217;t imagine another effecive method to measure intrinsic talent &#8211; if you can, I&#8217;m very curious.</p>
<p>I think that answers your question. Nevertheless: The things we <em>can</em> influence aren&#8217;t the talents, with which we are born &#8211; for this reasons I share your conclusions regarding practical consequences. But regarding epimistological consequences (the &#8220;truth&#8221;) I&#8217;d argue that your way of arguing resembles the well-known joke about the drunk who&#8217;s looking for his keys under the lamppost &#8211; not because he&#8217;s sure that he has lost them there, but because that&#8217;s the only place where he can see anything at all.</p>
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		<title>By: cmpalmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>cmpalmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to college with a guy who was a phenomenal guitar player. We played in the college jazz band together, but he was also in my pre-engineering courses. He did fairly good in physics and calculus, but he did eventually drop out to pursue a music career. Of all of the musicians I know, he is the only one who &quot;made it&quot;. I&#039;ve watched him on MTV, he&#039;s written songs for Grammy winning albums, and he&#039;s toured with several famous musicians.

Back in college, we were in awe of his guitar playing abilities and, to a lesser extent, that he was so good and made great grades in high school. Surely he must have been a musical prodigy. His secret? Every day, from the time he was around 11 or 12, he came home from school and played guitar for 3 hours, then ate supper, then spent an hour or so on his homework. On Saturday and Sunday, he still put in at least 2-3 hours on guitar. Every week. For six years. If he had any abnormal innate skill, it was in being dedicated enough as a teenager to spend a fixed amount of time every day to work on his playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to college with a guy who was a phenomenal guitar player. We played in the college jazz band together, but he was also in my pre-engineering courses. He did fairly good in physics and calculus, but he did eventually drop out to pursue a music career. Of all of the musicians I know, he is the only one who &#8220;made it&#8221;. I&#8217;ve watched him on MTV, he&#8217;s written songs for Grammy winning albums, and he&#8217;s toured with several famous musicians.</p>
<p>Back in college, we were in awe of his guitar playing abilities and, to a lesser extent, that he was so good and made great grades in high school. Surely he must have been a musical prodigy. His secret? Every day, from the time he was around 11 or 12, he came home from school and played guitar for 3 hours, then ate supper, then spent an hour or so on his homework. On Saturday and Sunday, he still put in at least 2-3 hours on guitar. Every week. For six years. If he had any abnormal innate skill, it was in being dedicated enough as a teenager to spend a fixed amount of time every day to work on his playing.</p>
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		<title>By: orientalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>orientalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very encouraging post-Thanks Cal

But I have a question; surely if one has more deliberate practise as a child, they will have an advantage, as people learn and retain things quicker as children?
Or are you saying this isn&#039;t the case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very encouraging post-Thanks Cal</p>
<p>But I have a question; surely if one has more deliberate practise as a child, they will have an advantage, as people learn and retain things quicker as children?<br />
Or are you saying this isn&#8217;t the case?</p>
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		<title>By: Study Hacks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Study Hacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am faisal n i m 17yrs old i m doing my A-Levels n nw m in AS but the problem is i m facing is that i cant seem to handle the stress of projects studies n exams n assignments n i failed in all my subjects in the recent school exams can u please help m out n tell what cn i do to imrpove my grades and how do i handle the stress&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A good starting place is the five articles listed under &quot;Popular Posts&quot; on the righthand column of this blog. Give them a read, and then let me know if you have some more questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am faisal n i m 17yrs old i m doing my A-Levels n nw m in AS but the problem is i m facing is that i cant seem to handle the stress of projects studies n exams n assignments n i failed in all my subjects in the recent school exams can u please help m out n tell what cn i do to imrpove my grades and how do i handle the stress</p></blockquote>
<p>A good starting place is the five articles listed under &#8220;Popular Posts&#8221; on the righthand column of this blog. Give them a read, and then let me know if you have some more questions.</p>
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		<title>By: faisal tasneem</title>
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		<dc:creator>faisal tasneem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi
I am faisal n i m 17yrs old i m doing my A-Levels n nw m in AS but the problem is i m facing is that i cant seem to handle the stress of projects studies n exams n assignments n i failed in all my subjects in the recent school exams can u please help m out n tell what cn i do to imrpove my grades and how do i handle the stress</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi<br />
I am faisal n i m 17yrs old i m doing my A-Levels n nw m in AS but the problem is i m facing is that i cant seem to handle the stress of projects studies n exams n assignments n i failed in all my subjects in the recent school exams can u please help m out n tell what cn i do to imrpove my grades and how do i handle the stress</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post! Thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post! Thanks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: Study Hacks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Study Hacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Your statement pretty much contradicts Bloom’s research. Swimming and playing tennis aren’t exactly high-level meta tasks. More importantly, why do you assume that genetic differences can account for varying levels of success in athletic pursuits, but not in academic pursuits?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For the specific case of left tackle, you have to be over 300 pounds, but with the weight distributed in such a way that makes you incredibly fast for someone your size. I&#039;m not sure how much is genetics and how much is nutrition -- but it&#039;s certainly not all practice!

&lt;blockquote&gt;I think you’re doing a disservice to your readers by implying that everyone has the same capacity for success and if only they tried hard enough, they too can be fabulously successful in their chosen fields.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know about being fabulously successful in their chosen fields. But when it comes to college-level courses, I think putting too much emphasis on natural ability is a fallacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Your statement pretty much contradicts Bloom’s research. Swimming and playing tennis aren’t exactly high-level meta tasks. More importantly, why do you assume that genetic differences can account for varying levels of success in athletic pursuits, but not in academic pursuits?</p></blockquote>
<p>For the specific case of left tackle, you have to be over 300 pounds, but with the weight distributed in such a way that makes you incredibly fast for someone your size. I&#8217;m not sure how much is genetics and how much is nutrition &#8212; but it&#8217;s certainly not all practice!</p>
<blockquote><p>I think you’re doing a disservice to your readers by implying that everyone has the same capacity for success and if only they tried hard enough, they too can be fabulously successful in their chosen fields.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about being fabulously successful in their chosen fields. But when it comes to college-level courses, I think putting too much emphasis on natural ability is a fallacy.</p>
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